Density Church

An Email From Our Brothers In Nigeria (or Hong Kong??)

2010-07-13T21:59:00.000-07:00

Guess what I got when I checked out my church email today.... here is the contents:

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Subject Line: BIBLES FOR CONVERTS

Dear Precious Servant of God,

Calvary greetings to you and the members of your Church.

Endtime Harvest Community Church has a mandate of reaching the good news of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to Inmates in the Prison, Market and rural Communities and we do preach in Schools as well whether private or public Schools and I am glad to tell you that Precious Souls are been saved through the Saving message we preach to them and they are glad to be born again and Praise God for the Salvations of muslims Brothers and Sisters who are now born gain through the power of God. My name is Pastor Jennifer Mesko and it was
really a great miracle for person like me to be born again because I was deep in the worshipping of Idols along with my Brothers and Sisters and my parents were not left out as well and I thank God today they are all saved and preaching the message of salvation to Souls in our Community and beyond.

And I pray that this letter finds you in good health and how is your family and the working you are doing for the Lord in your Country and I believe it is going well by the grace of God. My beloved Brethren, I am writing you this mail believing God that you will help us with 22 Large Print Bibles for Precious Converts who are in need of them and cannot buy one because they are poor in terms of finance and they are old as well. I pray that as you send us these Bibles God Almighty will reward you abundantly and exceedingly. Please, do mail these Bibles to our Address below and pray for the Precious Souls in our Orphanage
home as well. God Bless you abundantly and my regards to your lovely
family.

Looking forward to your respond my Dear Brethren in Christ.

Saving Souls For the Kingdom,

Pastor Jennifer Mesko
Endtime Harvest Community Church
237 harvest community Church Avenue
Egoru Road G.P.O 8950
Benin City,Edo State, Nigeria.

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So the sender is from Nigeria? Just the sort of the people who would know, as they are right there at the coal face of the good work being done by the church providing aid for Africa.

Sounds like a very reliable source! Especially when I consider the other factors: the email was sent from an ".edu" address (who wouldn't trust an education establishment??). I am just a little confused with how come the email's header specifies the reply-to path is a free Hong Kong email address... now how on earth does that make sense?!

But silly me, I shouldn't have suspicions of a fellow Christian so I've put my concerns to the side and I'm eagerly looking forward to the reply from Jennifer. I shall keep all my faithful followers updated!

THIS FILM MUST BE BANNED!

2009-11-09T23:27:00.000-08:00

Today we have a guest sermon from one of our faithful congregation of Density Church:

To all the Chosen gathered here in the presence of his most high reverend Bishop/King Brian. I address you, nay beseech you in our time of need.

I Arthur Idyard Hill, Humble servant of the Lord have in my internet researches discovered an insidious plot masquerading as common entertainment to the unknowing sheep out there. The evil of which I speak is a Film Named [REC]2.
Although I am loathe to discuss the details I must dwell constantly day and night on unspeakable acts to save the rest of you from the same spiritual pain. Hear me speak of its particularly shocking and abhorrent nature here:

And join me on the Face book group BAN REC2 FROM NZ!

Thank you and Remember! Satan messes your hair now, not because of what you've done, but because of what you're going to do.

Yours in Density, Arthur Idyard

The Bishop wants to become a King

2009-11-03T23:53:00.000-08:00

In recent days the Destiny Church has announced that 700 men have signed a pledge to follow their leader, Brian ‘not a hair out of place’ Tamaki, wherever he may go. The covenant was unveiled at the recent Destiny Conference where this new covenant was delivered via a slick PowerPoint and media presentation with accompanying confetti and balloons.

Mainstream media have focussed on some of the trivial aspects of this new covenant, such as bowing down before their leader, not eating before he starts his tucker and providing him with impromptu gifts. This media focus has outraged the local Freemason Society who are understandably gobsmacked by the sudden celebrity status of Destiny Church. Their leader, Iva Limpheart, was reported as saying “we have been running a bona-fide cult now for 72 years in New Zealand and we get no free advertising through the media. Destiny Church come along and writes a small pamphlet styled, Xeroxed produced, list of dos, don’t and follow me and they get instant Cult status. They don’t even have a secret handshake, one of the basic foundations of any cult. Deplorable.”

Here at Density Church we located and read the entire covenant which highlights some of the less talked about protocols the ‘Mini Tamakies’ will have to follow. While I have only had time to skim read the 666 page document it does make for some alarming reading and I wonder how these men will have time to commit to such a daunting task. Much of the writing is very forcefully with extensive use of Old Testament verses as ‘cornerstones’. Sadly, due to heavy editorial commitments I will focus on three of the real dangerous aspects of this covenant.

Firstly, men will have to style their hair incorporating the ‘Tamaki’ wave. This is a time consuming and delicate hair process that requires constant combing and excessive use of hair gel bought from K-Mart. However, the results are startling and if blow dried in the correct manner ensure you are part of the Destiny clan. History shows that the ‘Tamaki’ hairstyle has changed over the years as fashion in New Zealand has also moved. Thankfully, the style is so adaptable that only minor Destiny Church constitutional changes were required during the mullet era of the 1980’s and the shaggy ‘I just woke up’ style popular in the 1990’s. Scriptural backing for this strange focus comes from 1 Corinthians 11:3 where it says ‘Now I want you to realise the head of everyman is Christ.’

Secondly, when reading the covenant I was struck by the levels of commitment that many followers will be expected to reach. Most of them will need to buy a lavish array of boats, motor cars and motorbikes just to keep up with their leader. As one eager Destiny Church member said last week after signing on the dotted line;

“How can I follow Brian if he is in his 50 foot, twin hulled, nuclear powered launch and all I have is a 25ph Mercury on a 12ft tinny. Tomorrow, I’m extending the mortgage, cancelling the telephone and putting a down payment on a new Bayliner 350XL and a Harley Davidson in case the Bishop heads for the hills. Wherever the Bishop goes I will follow!”

While I felt this man’s enthusiasm was a little misguided, when reading this part of the covenant I kept thinking “How close does one have to follow Bishop Tamaki?” The covenant does call for total dedication but the man already has 15 bodyguards when he goes to the toilet. Add to that the 700 who signed on today and the cubical is starting to fill very quickly.

Finally and most concerning for me is that fact that under the new covenant people will not be able to disagree openly with the Bishop. While I understand his logic in putting this in his covenant, Bishop Tamaki will have a harder time ensuring this works effectively. I speak from personally experience here as I once tried a similar contract with my family. Sure things went well for the first 7 minutes but then my wife read what I had called ‘The Ten Commandments for living with Ozy’ and she just ripped it up.

My fear is that this will surely put many men in difficult positions. Firstly, The Bishop is from Rotorua and probably supports the Bay of Plenty Steamers Rugby team. While I have no problem with that would happen if at the annual church BBQ the topic around the cookery turned to rugby. Everybody would have to wait until the Bishop had spoken about who he thought would win and then it would be just an agree-athon between everyone else. Heaven help the man who went against Bishop Tamaki and suggested a Canterbury victory.

While I have only focussed on the negative the covenant does have some good points. Please remember dear reader there is always two sides to every coin tossed into the Destiny Church offering plate each week. The main benefit is for the Destiny Political Party as they now have 700 new people signed on which will hopefully mean they will double their entire vote count for the next election. Importantly though, the covenant challenges New Zealanders to improve their lives as humans, as fathers and as leaders in the community. While you might not agree with some aspects of the covenant we all must agree that improving our families and communities is an important step for New Zealand.

The perfect 'Tamaki' hairstyle. This is the 2005 version which includes less of a mullet, but still gives room for improvisation- as long as its within the DCC-HA (Destiny Church Constitution - Hairstyle Appendix)

Poor me, I'm living on the poverty line....

2009-10-30T19:20:00.000-07:00

Am barely scrapping by... please donate more money so I can carry on my good works.

Church gives Tamaki huge bonus

Brian Tamaki is given up to $500,000 every year in donations from Destiny Church members on top of his six-figure salary, according to a former employee.

Jesus goes to Destiny Church

2009-10-30T00:44:00.000-07:00

Jesus is not pleased by what he sees at Destiny Church....

(skip to 1:57 for when Jesus starts singing & earlier 1:31 for when he starts clearing the temple out...)

Questions for Density Church: Taking it to the "next level"

2009-10-29T13:33:00.001-07:00

As always feel free to ask us any spiritual questions about Density Church, and either I or one of my anointed congregation will answer it for you.

Here is our latest question, from Cameron Gray:

Brian, I'm not really ready to make another commitment to the church, but i do need answers. I have talked to my friend David here alot and well.... I have been with my girlfriend for a very long time (2 years) and was just wondering, does the destiny church think its ok to... ugh... take it to the next level? I know dave (sadly broke up a little while ago) was in a relationship and was nearly there but decided not to. It's hard being virgins unlike all of our friends

Thank you Cameron for you thoughtful question, I hope you will soon see the light that I am the one spokesman here on Earth for God and to join us at Density Church this coming Sunday.

And no, I do not believe it is appropriate for a person of your spiritual age to "take it to the next level" and start holding hands with another person of the opposite gender (it IS of the opposite gender right?).

Cameron replies with a follow up question...
Everyone tells me: "it's not gay if you're friends"

Answer...
I do believe the phrase you are looking for is: "it is not gay if you don't push back", which is of course completely false.

As we know (those of us who have been dutifully going along to Density Church) if you so much as look at a person lustfully then you have already sinned.

So thus we find from our studies that if you even thought of having sex with your friend then it as if you have already done this sin (and if you have already "done" it.... then having sex with him is not going to make any difference is it?).

Reference: "But I tell you that whoever looks at a woman and cherishes lustful thoughts has already in his heart become guilty with regard to her." Matthew 5:28

Yours in the Flying Spaghetti Monster,
Lord High Bishop Brian Tamariki

Brian Tamaki Talks About His Love For Drugs

2009-10-29T06:58:00.000-07:00

Raybon Kan on Destiny Church

2009-10-29T06:51:00.000-07:00

Eating Media Lunch: It's Good To Be Brian Tamaki

2009-10-29T06:27:00.000-07:00

Nocturnal Emissions

2009-10-29T05:20:00.000-07:00

Question: Dear Brian

I am 14 years old, and am a bit embarrassed to ask you this. But I will, because of some guilt feelings I'm having. The other night, while I was asleep, I had a nocturnal emission. I woke up to discover a wet patch. I had no control over this obviously, because I was asleep. But I felt a lot of guilt about it afterwards, and wondered if having a nocturnal emission is a sin? Should I ask for forgiveness for this?

Robert Rakiti

Answer: Dear Robert

Thanks for your question, Robert. Your sense of guilt is for a very good reason. Having a nocturnal emission is a sin, and is just as much a sin as killing someone - even though it is completely involuntary. In the Word of God, Leviticus 15 requires that every time a man
ejaculates he is unclean until the end of the day! God knows that male discharges are incredibly hazardous. Seminal ejaculation is a sin, and the Bible tells us that they must be amended for - through offerings to God and a ritual cleansing. It is for this very reason that Penni
and I only have sexual intercourse when I know I can stay within the confines of my home all day afterwards. For God's holy law is good, and protects us against disease.

This law is set out both in Leviticus 15.16 and Deuteronomy 23.10-11:

"If a man has an emission of semen, he shall bathe his whole body in water, and be unclean until the evening."
- Leviticus 15.16

"If one of you becomes unclean because of a nocturnal emission, then he shall go outside the camp; he must not come within the camp. When evening comes, he shall wash himself with water, and when the sun has set, he may come back into the camp."
- Deut 23.10-11

Did you see what it said in Deuteronomy? God's law also applies to nocturnal emissions! Yup - even if a man has an involuntarily ejaculation in his sleep, he is considered 'unclean' in the eyes of
God. For we are fallen creatures. And we can sin even when we don't know it, because of the original sin of Adam.

That's why the Jews required that a man had to make a sin offering for the forgiveness of his sin of ejaculation. God doesn't approve of our ejaculations. Oh no! Ejaculating is a result of our sinful natures, and every time we wake up feeling the sticky residue of an involuntary nocturnal emission, we should pray for forgiveness. Before Jesus came, the Jews had to sacrifice a turtledove as a sin offering for offending God with their ejaculations. Ejaculating is indeed a sin! Leviticus 15.14-15 required that:

"On the eighth day a man who ejaculated shall take two turtledoves or two pigeons and come before Yahweh to the entrance of the tent of meeting and give them to the priest. The priest shall offer them, one for a sin offering and the other for a burnt offering; and the priest shall make atonement on his behalf before Yahweh for his discharge."

Nowadays, however, Christians can pray for forgiveness of our ejaculations - directly to God, without the intervention of a priest. This is where the Whore of Babylon, the Roman Catholic Church, is wrong. They still think that we need a priest to intervene between us and God, but I'm telling you that we can pray directly to Jesus and say "sorry about that ejaculation, Lord Jesus!"

And just in case you spit your semen at anyone else lying near you, please remember that they are just as unclean as you. As Leviticus 15.8 teaches:

"If the one with the discharge spits on persons who are clean, then they shall wash their clothes, and bathe in water, and be unclean until the evening."

You don't want to be spat upon by an unclean ejaculator! Oh no! So if you happen to sleep in the same room as your brother, and he accidentally gets spat on with your nocturnal emission, remember the Bible tells us he has to pray for forgiveness as well. But thank God that He has provided us with His Law to cleanse ourselves again!! Worldly Doctors will try to tell you that seminal ejaculations are actually quite pure. And I am even aware of some doctors who have told loose women that semen is remarkably high in protein. But they should read the Word of God to discover the truth!

The Word of God does not lie! Seminal ejaculations will cause disease, so you've got to clean yourself afterwards, as well as all your clothes and bed-sheets. Not only that, but ejaculating - even if it is an unconscious nocturnal emission - causes spiritual disease! And that's the reason that God requires your repentance for the Sin of Ejaculation.

Praise the Lord for His Word!!
Brian Tamariki
Senior Pastor, Density Church

Te Waha Nui article: The Density Church — enough is never enough

2004-09-16T10:11:00.000-07:00

God take pity on the innocent who stray from the path of righteous spelling. While googling or their esteemed pastor Brian Tamaki, Destiny Church members could end up following the Church of Density. The church is led by senior pastor Brian Tamariki, supported by his wife Penni. Tamariki is also the chairman of the Committee for Post-Raptural Mission. CPRM is a
charitable organisation which prepares and prints instruction booklets “for non-Christians left
behind after Jesus comes again to whisk away all the Christians who are good bible-believing, church-going, spirit-filled, tithe-giving, happy-clap-ping children of God!” Amen!

One of Density’s key issues is the growing number of gay sheep in New Zealand. Density members marched on Parliament in uniform black “Sheep are sheep” to protest ovine moral decline. They were joined by heterosexual sheep in their protest. Tamariki was quoted as saying: “You know, Jesus was the Good Shepherd, and he sure wouldn’t have let any of his
flock go gay.”

Density is so tight with the holy trinity that it offers you a personal relationship with Jesus. It’s a good thing he’s up with the times, because all you have to do is email him and if you demonstrate the faith he’ll email you right back.

Pastor Tamariki says the Bible has the answer to everything. The site dedicates a page
to those hard-to-answer questions for all God-fearing Christians. Does the Bible have tips on
sheep breeding techniques? Does menstruation make you filthy and impure? Is it a sin to have nocturnal emissions? Is it your wife’s fault you feel jealous? The Bible has an answer and Pastor Brian Tamariki provides his flock with answers from the gospel. If you’ve made it to the poverty line this month you can visit the Density Church shop. Show how much you love God’s conduit. You can declare “Keep Your Bottoms Holy, Sodomites” on everything from baseball jerseys to drinks coasters (for that boozy late night personal reminder). If your body is acting unholy you can warn your brethren with a “DON’T TOUCH – I’m menstruating this week” thong or shirt for the ladies, or “DON’T TOUCH – I’ve just had a nightly emission” boxer shorts or t-shirt for the men.

Like Tamariki says: “Don’t hold out on Jesus, he wouldn’t hold out on you.” If you are googling for righteous Destiny, follow your rightful path “happy clapping for Jesus!”

—By Marcus Stickley

Density Church marches agains Gay sheep

2004-09-04T20:08:00.000-07:00

Thousands of Density church members, clad in black shirts, marched on Parliament on Friday to voice their opposition to the "growing numbers of gay sheep".

The march was organised after a recent scientific study, published in the Journal of Endocrinology, demonstrated that some 8% of sheep displayed homosexual proclivities. The report, which discovered a link between homosexual orientation and the volume of oSDN cells in sheep, has outraged members of Density Church, who consider it to be evidence of moral decline amongst sheep communities.

"It's just not natural," Tamariki claimed in his address. "My grandfather was a farmer in the King Country in the 1950s, and he says there certainly weren't any gay sheep in his day. He told me himself that there was none of that sort of carry on amongst his flocks. So you have to ask why 8% of sheep have suddenly gone gay today.

"To my mind, there is only one reason for this," continued Tamariki. "Sheep are not being as strongly disciplined as in the past. Through lax standards, too many sheep are being given the run of the land, and have fallen into moral degeneracy.

The Density crowd were confident that tougher sheep legislation could put an end to this outbreak of ovine homosexuality."Yeah, sheep shouldn't be gay. Sheep are sheep," commented one of the marchers, Wiremu Johnson (aged 6).

"You know, Jesus was the Good Shepherd, and he sure wouldn't have let any of his flock go gay," commented Tamariki. "So if Jesus could have had 100% straight sheep, then so should we. Let's bring this country back to normality! Sheep are sheep!!"

Critic's: "The lighter side of stoning"

2004-08-23T13:21:00.000-07:00

Destiny Church not fundamentalist enough for you? Would you like to stone homosexuals to death and keep women in the kitchen? Then try Density Church, which claims to follow every single commandment in the Bible.

Yeah, it’s a joke. But although Density Church (www.densitychurch.org) is actually a satire designed to take the piss out of Destiny Church, it is serious in that everything Density says is directly commanded by the Bible.

It is also deadly serious in the fact that the man who created Density Church wouldn’t agree to reveal his name or even meet us in person, because he fears the fine and Christian people at Destiny Church might take revenge for his poking fun.

Scary huh?

In the first part of this article, Critic interviewed the imaginary leader of Density Church, ‘Brian Tamariki’, the fanatic alter-ego of the real-life Density Church creator. In the second part, below, we interviewed the real person behind the imaginary character of Brian Tamariki, and asked why he created such an elaborate (and some would say offensive) joke.

Brian Tamariki

Critic: Brian, you are the founder of Density Church, not Destiny church, right?

Brian Tamariki: ‘Destiny Church’?! [splutter] The charlatans at Destiny Church are worldly compromisers, who have unsuccessfully tried to imitate us. But only Density Church follows everything written in the Bible – down to the last literal letter. For example, while Destiny Church merely wants homosexuals to be made ‘illegal’ and to have them put in prison, Density Church insists that sodomites be stoned to death in accordance with Leviticus 20:13. After all, prison would be like a holiday camp to homosexuals.

Slavery. It’s okay with God, right?

Amen! Only the Bible provides us with an unchanging guide for what is good and what is bad. And the Bible has nothing bad to say about slavery at all. According to the Bible, slaves are only property, and should not be given the rights that free men have.

For instance, Exodus 21.20–21 states that a slave-owner may beat his slave so severely that even if he dies after a couple of days, the owner is not able to be punished – because the slave is merely his ‘property’.

The Bible only condemns the immediate and outright killing of a slave with a small fine – that’s the moral standard of care that the Bible sets out, in its infinite wisdom! So good Christians should be able to own other Christians, and those Christian slaves should “slave for them all the harder because they are Christians” (1 Timothy 6:2; c.f. 1 Peter 2.18–19).

We all know a woman’s place is in the kitchen. But are women allowed to cook for men when they are menstruating?

Certainly not! And this is yet another Biblical command that Destiny Church chooses to ignore, but Density Church follows.

Leviticus 15.19–20 clearly requires that a woman should be in seclusion for a whole seven days during “the filthy impurity of her monthly period”. The Bible explains that anything she touches will catch the filthy contamination of her menstruation, and will also be impure.

Let me make myself clear: I have no time for those liberal, basket-weaving, hairy legged, feminist lesbians, who say that this treatment is “unjust” to women.

What other interesting things does Density Church believe in?

We believe everything that the Bible says. And that is why we fervently believe that the Earth is flat. As the Bible clearly teaches, we live in a three-tiered universe. Above us is a solid dome, with its foundations at the ends of the earth. The sun, moon, and stars all travel along this dome. And below us is Hell. In-between, as the Bible clearly states, lies the flat earth. Why do our schools only teach the lies of Round-Earthism, but not the science of Flat-Earthism? It comes down to a question of faith. Who do you want to believe: those atheist NASA scientists who staged the ‘moon-walk’ in the Arizona Desert, or God?

Where do you see New Zealand in ten years time?

In ten years time, I see that our affiliated political party, Density NZ, will sweep into power, and restore the nation to sound, moral, biblical values – that is, keeping women in seclusion for a quarter of their fertile lives, only allowing men property rights, reintroducing slavery, outlawing homosexuals and single mothers, teaching our children nothing of atheistic science and only sound Biblical Flat-Earthism, and breaking up any mixed-race marriages.

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But who is the real person behind the Density Church? Critic interviewed the founder of the church on condition of total anonymity.

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Critic: Why did you set up Density Church?

Density Church founder: Back in 2000, a few of us wanted to have a bit of fun with Christian fundamentalism in a New Zealand context. As Destiny Church is fairly much the nadir of New Zealand fundamentalism, they were the obvious immediate butt of the joke. Given the warped and fairly tendentious mindset of Christian fundamentalists, making serious arguments against them is generally fairly fruitless – we come from such ‘fundamentally’ different mindsets that there is no common ground. So I think humour is a better approach – holding up a mirror to fundamentalism and letting it view its own absurdity.

Have you had any reaction from Destiny Church? Threats?

We have received a number of demands from Destiny Church to close the website over the years, as well as some rather humourless responses from some Destiny Church members. A few Destiny members, bless ’em, were able to see the joke, although they are a distinct minority. In March we received an email from Ian Toimata from Destiny Church, who wrote, “I have started pursuing legal advice on your use of design and branding that is registered to Destiny Church International. So you will be hearing from me very soon. Let’s see how well your satire holds up to the cold harsh reality of ‘reality’. WELCOME TO THE BREAKYOU GENERATION! Turn up the heat and let’s do some cooking.”

No legal action ensued, although we were amused by an email from his wife earlier this month which said, “I bet your mission bay neighboours [sic] think exactly the same as we do… homosexuality is dysfunctional & severley [sic] perverse - ABNORMAL. I can only guess that you are a homo.”

So I guess Destiny Church have shown something less than ‘Christian charity’?

Some would claim you are perverting the Word of God and are going to hell.

I tend to point out that we are actually applying the Word of God quite literally – more literally even than fundamentalists. Obviously, in doing so, there is a satirical message: i.e., that the fundamentalist literalistic mode of interpretation leads to quite absurd results – if taken to its logical extreme.

Are you a Christian, Atheist, Agnostic, Muslim, Hindu?

I am a theist. I am not very dogmatic about my beliefs. The evidence of the past 200 or so years has discredited the particularities of individual religions so as to make them widely unbelievable in the secular West. The religious institutions are social constructions, and it pays to always keep this in mind. Fundamentalists, by and large, forget this.

Jamie McEwan

Volunteer Writer

Sunday Star Times Letter

2004-06-23T09:14:00.000-07:00

The Sunday Star Times recently printed the following letter:

Dear Sir

Your review of Brian Tamaki's Destiny Church and Political Party was interesting reading. But it failed to note that they are Hell-bound Liberals, because they do not follow ALL of the Word of God.

Only my own Church, 'Density Church', follows ALL of the commands in the Bible! That is why we insist that women be secluded for one week every month in their time of impurity, that pimples be cured with the blood of a bird, and that good Christians should wear boxers as underwear not briefs - all in accordance with the teachings of the Bible.

Destiny Church prides itself on its hard stance against homosexuals. But they're not hard enough! Only Density Church follows the literal Word of God, by insisting that homosexuals must be stoned to death.

If the Bible says it, I follow it, without thinking. 'Thinking' is only a temptation that the Devil places in our path, after all.

And while their political party Destiny NZ wants Creationism to be taught in schools, Density Church goes one step further. We want the Biblical belief in a Flat Earth to be taught in schools. Only when 'Flat-Earthism' is taught in our schools will the science syllabus fully reflect the scientific teachings of the Bible.

As the Bible clearly teaches, we live in a 3-tiered universe, with our flat earth resting between a solid dome above us and the cosmic waters below us. When I read the Bible, I realise how many lies those atheist scientists at NASA have made up, including that 'moon-walk' they filmed in the Arizona Desert.

Note that we have also started our own Political Party, 'Density NZ', which boasts 17 members nationwide, and is growing fast. Once we are elected to Parliament, you can just imagine what a country based on the ethics and science of the Bible will look like. Won't it be great?

Stephen Geddes

Auckland